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- Poodle Versus Collie: Introduction
- Poodle versus Collie: Overview
- Poodle versus Collie: Comparison Table
- The Most Remarkable Differences Between the Poodle and the Collie
- The Similarities Between the Poodle and the Collie
- Temperament of the Collie Versus the Poodle
- Price of Poodle versus Price of Collie
- Adopting the Poodle versus Adopting the Collie
- The Intelligence of the Poodle versus the Intelligence of the Collie
- The Popularity of Poodle versus Popularity of Collie
- Health Problems of Poodle versus Health Problems of Collie
- Tolerates Being Alone: Poodle versus Collie
- Do Poodles shed more than Collies?
- Which is Easier to Groom, the Poodle or the Collie?
- Which Dog Breed is more Dog-Friendly, the Poodle or the Collie?
- Are Poodles good family dogs? What about Collies?
- Is the Poodle Easier to Train than the Collie?
- Which one drools more, the Poodle or the Collie
- How Kid-friendly are Poodles and Collies?
- Does the Poodle Have a Higher Prey Drive than the Collie?
- Do Poodles Bark and Howl? What about Collies?
- Can Poodles Tolerate Cold Weather? And can Collies Tolerate Cold Weather?
- Wanderlust Potential: Poodle vs. Collie
- Can Poodles Tolerate Hot Weather? Can Collies Tolerate Hot Weather?
- Poodle Versus Other Dog Breeds
- Conclusion: Poodle versus Collie. Which One is a Better Pet?
Poodle Versus Collie: Introduction
Are you thinking of getting a new pet dog, and you have narrowed down your choices to the Poodle and the Collie? Well, you have come to the right place. Because in this article, we will provide you a detailed comparison of these two dog breeds to help you decide which of the Poodle and the Collie better suits you.
We will provide you a detailed discussion and comparison of dog attributes such as intelligence, price, general health, friendliness, etc, for both the Poodle and the Collie.
Furthermore, we will let you know which one of the Poodle and the Collie is better suited for new dog owners, for owners with kids, for owners that live in apartments, for owners with dog allergies, etc.
Importantly, we did some analysis and calculation and we obtained a number that we call the Better-Pet Score™ for both the Poodle and for the Collie. The dog breed with the higher Better-Pet score is the `better` pet. We hope that these Better-Pet Scores will provide you more insight into deciding which pet to get between the Poodle and the Collie.
Our only goal here is to help you make a well-thought-out decision on your next long-term companion, be it the Poodle or the Collie
Note that there are 3 types of Poodles:
However, these 3 poodle `types` are basically the same. The only difference between them is size. Standard Poodles are big, toy poodles are small, and miniature poodles are medium-sized.
In addition, we have articles on the detailed comparisons of the poodle to every other dog breed. Check out our articles on poodle versus other dog breeds here.
Poodle versus Collie: Overview
A very important difference between the Poodle and the Collie is the size difference between the two dog breeds. The Poodle is a large-sized dog while the Collie is a medium-sized dog.
Furthermore, the Poodle belongs to the Companion Dogs group. Companion Dogs were bred to be companions for humans. Their main goal in life is to be with people, and they will be very sad if left to themselves for long hours day after day.
On the other hand, the Collie belongs to the Herding Dogs group. Herding Dogs were bred for moving livestock, including sheep, cattle, and even reindeer. Herding dogs work closely with their human shepherds, and their natural intelligence and responsiveness make them highly trainable. They have high levels of energy, which needs to be channeled properly to prevent destructive behavior. Herding breeds are protective of their people and property and make excellent watchdogs. Their intelligence, agility, and activity level make them well suited to dog sports.
Poodle versus Collie: Comparison Table
The table below compares the Poodle to the Collie based on different important factors such as Price, Health, Kid-friendliness, etc.
When a dog breed scores higher for a factor than the other dog breed, the box of the breed that scores higher is shaded green and the box of the breed that scores lower is shaded red. When there is no difference between the breeds for a particular factor then the box is shaded gray for both pets. Also, when the factor is not important in picking a pet, or when the factor cannot be compared between two pets, the box for the factor is shaded gray for both pets
Most of the factors in the table for each dog breed are ranked on a scale of 1 to 5. “1” means “worst”, and “5” means “best”.
However, some factors such as “Price”, “Average Lifespan”, etc. cannot be on a scale of 1 to 5, so they are not on a scale of 1 to 5 in the comparison table.
Later in this article, we will further explain each factor as it applies to the Poodle and the Collie
|Tolerates Being Alone||1/5||2/5|
|Does NOT Shed||5/5||1/5|
|Does NOT Drool||5/5||5/5|
|Easy To Groom||1/5||2/5|
|Life Span||12 to 15 years||10 to 14 years|
|Low Prey Drive||4/5||2/5|
|Does NOT Bark or Howl||4/5||2/5|
|Tolerates Cold Weather||3/5||4/5|
|Tendency NOT to Wander||3/5||5/5|
|Calmness/ Low Vigor||3/5||4/5|
||50 to 70 pounds|
|Tolerates Hot Weather||4/5||3/5|
|Friendly Toward Strangers||4/5||4/5|
|Potential NOT to Gain Weight||2/5||3/5|
|Does NOT chew on things||2/5||3/5|
|Minimal Exercise Needs||2/5||3/5|
|Adapts Well To Apartment Living||5/5||3/5|
|Good For Novice Owners||5/5||4/5|
|Affectionate With Family||5/5||5/5|
|Easy To Train||5/5||4/5|
|Potential For Playfulness||5/5||4/5|
||22 to 26 inches all at the shoulder|
|Average Lifespan||13.5 years||12.0 years|
||$1000 – $1800|
|Temperament Score||87.2 percent||80.8 percent|
|Common Health Problems and Recommended Health Tests||
|Popularity out of 200 Dog Breeds||7||37|
|Intelligence Rank (out of 130 Dog Breeds)||2||16|
*Data from dogtime.com, OFA.org (The Orthopedic Foundation for Animals), petcalculator.com, wikipedia.org, ATTS.org (the American Temperament Test Society)
Next, we added the scores of the factors that can be added together for the Poodle in the table (that is, `Ease of Grooming` score + `General Health` score + `Calmness` score + …etc) and we compared it to the corresponding total score for the Collie. We call these total scores the Better-Pet Scores, as we mentioned earlier. We called this score the Better-Pet score because the better dog breed will have a higher score. This is because the pet will the higher score will have minimal needs and be easier to have as a pet.
The Better-Pet score for a Poodle is 88 out of 125 while the Better-Pet score for a Collie is 83 out of 125.
Based on their Better-Pet scores, the Poodle is a better pet than the Collie. So, you should get a Poodle!
The Most Remarkable Differences Between the Poodle and the Collie
Below is a list of where the Poodle and the Collie are most different:
The Similarities Between the Poodle and the Collie
The Poodle and the Collie are very similar in certain aspects. Below is the list of where the Poodle and the Collie are most similar:
Size (Weight and Height) of Poodle versus Collie
Now, let us discuss the difference in size between the Poodle and the Collie.
Poodles come in three main size categories. These three size categories are referred to as the three varieties of the poodle. Poodles of different varieties are basically the same except for their size differences. The poodle varieties based on size categorization are:
There is another variety of poodle that is not recognized in the USA but is recognized in Europe. This poodle size variety is called the Moyen Poodle. In size, the Moyen Poodle is smaller than the Standard poodle but bigger than the miniature poodle.
See below the figure that compares the different poodle sizes:
On the other hand, Collies weigh 50 to 70 pounds when fully grown. Collies are 22 to 26 inches all at the shoulder when fully grown.
Temperament of the Collie Versus the Poodle
The Poodle has a better temperament than the Collie.
This is because the temperament score for the Poodle is 87.2 percent while the temperament score for the Collie is 80.8 percent, according to the American Temperament Test Society (ATTS).
The American Temperament Test Society (ATTS) is a non-profit organization whose mission is to provide fair and objective evaluations of the temperaments of dog breeds.
Dog breeds with low temperament scores tend to show unprovoked aggression, they easily panic without quickly recovering from the panic, and they tend to avoid people. However, dog breeds with high temperament scores are not aggressive and are not shy. Also, these dogs are generally friendly and are protective of their owners.
The average temperament score across all dog breeds (over 250 breeds) is 83.7 percent.
With its temperament score of 87.2 percent, the Poodle has an above-average temperament compared to other dog breeds.
With its temperament score of 80.8 percent, the Collie has a below-average temperament compared to other dog breeds.
The ATTS obtained the temperament scores of the Poodle and the Collie by measuring the temperaments of 266 Poodles and 896 Collies.
Price of Poodle versus Price of Collie
The average price of the Standard Poodle puppy is $2000. The price of the Standard Poodle typically ranges from $1400 – $2500. However, the price of a Standard Poodle can be as low as $200 and as high as $20000. We obtained this price information by reviewing the prices of 2527 Standard Poodle puppies listed for sale from various sources.
The average price of the Miniature Poodle puppy is $2530. The price of the Miniature Poodle typically ranges from $1500 – $3000. However, the price of a Miniature Poodle can be as low as $350 and as high as $20000. We obtained this price information by reviewing the prices of 1192 Miniature Poodle puppies listed for sale from various sources.
The average price of the Toy Poodle puppy is $2840. The price of the Toy Poodle typically ranges from $1900 – $3500. However, the price of a Toy Poodle can be as low as $450 and as high as $40000. We obtained this price information by reviewing the prices of 874 Toy Poodle puppies listed for sale from various sources.
To know about standard poodle prices and standard poodle buying advice, check out our article on standard poodle cost.
To know about miniature poodle prices, check out this article on miniature poodle price.
To learn more about toy poodle price and for toy poodle buying advice, check out this article on toy poodle price.
The average price of the Collie puppy is $1480. The price of the Collie typically ranges from $1000 – $1800. However, the price of a Collie can be as low as $300 and as high as $15000. We obtained this price information by collecting and reviewing the prices of 356 Collie puppies listed for sale from various sources.
The Poodle is more expensive than the Collie.
|Price Range||$1500 to $2800||$1000 to $1800|
The charts below show the price distribution for the Poodle and Collie. For different price points, the charts show how many Poodle puppies or how many Collie puppies are listed for sale at those price points.
A breakdown of the prices of Poodles. The typical price range is shaded Green.
A breakdown of the prices of Collies
Note that a lot of factors determine how much you can expect to pay for the Poodle puppy or the Collie puppy. This includes if health screening tests have been performed on the puppy, if the puppy is from a famous pedigree, the US State where the puppy is bred, etc.
Nevertheless, when looking from a puppy, look at buying a puppy only from well-established breeders that breed puppies primarily for the love of dogs, and secondarily for profit. Do not buy a puppy from one of those puppy mills that mass-produce puppies in bad living conditions for maximum profit.
You may also consider adopting a dog instead of buying a dog.
Adopting the Poodle versus Adopting the Collie
You may consider adopting a dog instead of buying a puppy. Many Poodles and many Collies are currently available for adoption.
These adorable and cute dogs are waiting in dog shelters hoping that someday someone will rescue them. Furthermore, adoption costs are lesser than the cost of a new puppy. Dog adoption costs are usually around $300. In addition to your local dog shelter, a good place online to see dogs that are available for adoption is petfinder.com.
Below is an adorable Male Poodle named Teddy that is currently available for adoption on Petfinder.com. You can find other lovely adoptable Poodles like Teddy on pefinder.com.
Also, like Poodles, Collies are also available for adoption. For example, Tyler is a Male Collie that is currently available for adoption on petfinder.com. You can find more Collies like Tyler that are up for adoption on petfinder.com.
Max Spartan is the name of another Poodle (Male) on petfinder.com that is looking for a new home.
Also Jimmy Mack, is an adorable Male Collie on petfinder.com that you can adopt.
You can find more Poodles and Collies that are available for adoption on petfinder.
The Intelligence of the Poodle versus the Intelligence of the Collie
|Intelligence Rank||2 out of 130 dog breeds||16 out of 130 dog breeds|
|Trainability||Tend To Learn New Commands After Fewer Than 5 Repetitions||Tend To Learn New Commands After 5 To 15 Repetitions|
Professor Stanley Coren, the famous psychology/neuropsychological professor and, dog lover/trainer measured and ranked the intelligence of about 130 different dog breeds.
According to Prof. Stanley Coren, the total intelligence that a dog demonstrates is the addition of three types of intelligence. These intelligence types are:
Prof. Coren showed that the Working/Obedience Intelligence of different dog breeds can be measured reliably. Thus, he was able to rank different dog breeds based on their Working/Obedience Intelligence.
This is important because according to Prof. Coren, 51 percent of a dog`s intelligence comes from its genes while 49 percent of a dog`s intelligence comes from the dog`s environmental circumstances.
To rank the intelligence of dog breeds, Prof. Coren employed the help of 208 dog obedience judges in North America to fill out a detailed survey on dog obedience. This number represented more than half of all of these judges in North America at the time. He also employed 63 veterinarians and 14 guard dog experts to collect data on the personality of different dog breeds.
Prof. Coren found that the Poodle has an obedience intelligence rank of 2 out of 130 dog breeds. The Poodle belongs to the `Brightest Dogs` category. This means that Poodles tend to learn new commands after fewer than 5 repetitions.
The Collie has an obedience intelligence rank of 16 out of 130 dog breeds. The Collie belongs to the `Excellent Working Dogs` category. This means that Collies tend to learn new commands after 5 to 15 repetitions.
The Poodle is more intelligent than the Collie.
However, Prof. Coren noted that a dog should not be judged based on its intelligence alone, that other factors such as sociability, adorability, and compatibility with the owner are other very important factors that new dog owners need to consider when deciding on a new dog.
The Popularity of Poodle versus Popularity of Collie
Every year, the American Kennel Club (AKC) publishes information on how popular a dog breed is in that particular year. The AKC gets the popularity information of a breed from how many dogs of that breed the owners register with the AKC every year. The AKC collects this data for about 200 dog breeds. The AKC collects this data for purebred dogs only(no mixed or hybrid dogs).
The graphs and the table below show the popularity of the Poodle and the Collie over the years.
Based on the AKC popularity data over the years, the Poodle is more popular with dog owners than the Collie. This is because, over the years, the average popularity of the Poodle is 7 out of about 200 dog breeds while the average popularity of the Collie is 37 out of about 200 dog breeds.
|Year||Standard Poodle Popularity Rank||Collie Popularity Rank|
Health Problems of Poodle versus Health Problems of Collie
Every dog breed has its own set of health problems that it has a tendency to develop. There is nothing like a perfect dog breed.
Both the Poodle and the Collie are prone to certain genetic health conditions. The Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA) is the organization that keeps track of health problems in dogs. Based on the extensive records that the OFA keeps, the OFA knows what health problems each dog breed is naturally prone to develop. Hence, the OFA recommends which health screening that breeders should perform on a dog breed to make sure that the breeders won`t breed `defective` dog parents that can pass down defective genes to their puppy offspring.
The more health problems a dog breed is prone to develop, the more health tests the OFA will recommend for that dog breed.
Based on our review of OFA records, we found that the Collie is prone to the same number of genetic health problems as the Poodle.
4 health tests are recommended for Poodle while 4 tests are recommended for the Collie.
Below is a detailed discussion of health problems in Poodles and in Collies.
Poodle Health Problems
Poodles are genetically prone to certain health problems. However, breeders can reduce the chances of producing Poodle puppies with genetic defects by making sure that a puppy`s parents are free from genetic health problems before allowing the parent to make puppies.
The OFA provides breeders recommendations on which genetic diseases that breeders should screen their dog parents and puppies for.
If you want a Poodle puppy that will grow up to be healthy, make sure that your Poodle breeder screens your puppy or your puppy`s parents for the health problems that the OFA recommends for your puppy`s breed. This will increase the chances that your puppy is free from genetic defects.
The following are the health tests that Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA) recommends that breeders should screen Poodles for:
You can find out more about OFA`s recommended tests for Poodles here.
Collie Health Problems
Collies are genetically prone to certain health problems. However, breeders can reduce the chances of producing Collie puppies with genetic defects by making sure that a puppy`s parents are free from genetic health problems before allowing the parent to make puppies.
The OFA provides breeders recommendations on which genetic diseases that breeders should screen their dog parents and puppies for.
If you want a Collie puppy that will grow up to be healthy, make sure that your Collie breeder screens your puppy or your puppy`s parents for the health problems that the OFA recommends for your puppy`s breed. This will increase the chances that your puppy is free from genetic defects.
The following are the health tests that Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA) recommends that breeders should screen Collies for:
You can find out more about OFA`s recommended tests for Collies here.
More Discussions on Health Problems in Poodles and Collies
Based on our analysis of data from the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals, of all known genetic health problems in dogs, the health problem that is most commonly seen in the Poodle Breed is Basic Cardiac problems.
This is because the Poodle ranks 1 out of 16 dog breeds for Basic Cardiac problems. In fact, in a health test conducted on 270 Poodles, 2 of them had Basic Cardiac problems.
The genetic diseases that were found to commonly occur in Poodles, and how common these diseases are in Poodles relative to other dog breeds, are given below:
Based on our analysis of data from the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals, of all known genetic health problems in dogs, the health problem that is most commonly seen in the Collie Breed is Collie Eye Anomaly problems.
This is because the Collie ranks 1 out of 7 dog breeds for Collie Eye Anomaly problems. In fact, in a health test conducted on 114 Collies, 16 of them had Collie Eye Anomaly problems.
The genetic diseases that were found to commonly occur in Collies, and how common these diseases are in Collies relative to other dog breeds, are given below:
The table below lists the common health problems in Poodle and in Collie and the rank (prevalence), compared to other dogs, of these health problems in the Poodle and the Collie:
|Disease||Poodle Rank||Collie Rank|
|Basic Cardiac problems||1 out of 16 dog breeds||Not Common|
|Neonatal Encephalopathy W/Seizures problems||1 out of 1 dog breeds||Not Common|
|Sebaceous Adenitis problems||1 out of 2 dog breeds||Not Common|
|Chondrodystrophy (Cddy) problems||3 out of 5 dog breeds||Not Common|
|Rcd4 Progressive Retinal Atrophy problems||4 out of 8 dog breeds||Not Common|
|Von Willebrands problems||7 out of 15 dog breeds||Not Common|
|Legg-Calve-Perthes problems||11 out of 40 dog breeds||Not Common|
|Progressive Retinal Atrophy problems||14 out of 32 dog breeds||Not Common|
|Dentition Database problems||21 out of 49 dog breeds||13 out of 49 dog breeds|
|Advanced Cardiac problems||49 out of 71 dog breeds||Not Common|
|Degenerative Myelopathy problems||57 out of 70 dog breeds||16 out of 70 dog breeds|
|Patella problems||61 out of 145 dog breeds||Not Common|
|Congenital Cardiac problems||73 out of 159 dog breeds||Not Common|
|Thyroid problems||84 out of 115 dog breeds||65 out of 115 dog breeds|
|Elbow problems||88 out of 144 dog breeds||107 out of 144 dog breeds|
|Hips problems||100 out of 198 dog breeds||182 out of 198 dog breeds|
|Eyes problems||127 out of 182 dog breeds||1 out of 182 dog breeds|
|Collie Eye Anomaly problems||Not Common||1 out of 7 dog breeds|
|Multiple Drug Resistance (Mdr1) problems||Not Common||1 out of 7 dog breeds|
*To learn more about each of these diseases, go to OFA.org and search for the disease.
Again, most of these health problems can be prevented through health screening. Responsible breeders screen male and female dog parents for genetic problems. These breeders will only breed dogs that are free of genetic defects. That way, there is little or no chance that their puppies will grow up to have genetic health problems. Always ask a breeder for the list of health tests the breeder screens their dogs for before buying a puppy from such a breeder.
Tolerates Being Alone: Poodle versus Collie
Poodles do not like to be left alone.
Poodles, by nature, are companion dogs. They like and thrive on human companionship more than most dog breeds. Poodles do not like to be left alone. Leaving a poodle alone for more than 4 hours day after day will cause separation anxiety and isolation distress in a poodle. If you plan to get a poodle, make sure you can be around your poodle most of the time, or arrange for a dog walker.
See our article on how long you can leave a poodle alone.
Collies do not like to be left alone.
Do Poodles shed more than Collies?
Poodles do not shed a lot. They are good for people with dog allergies.
Although all dogs shed, and poodles are no different in this regard. But poodles shed less than many other breeds of dogs. However, if you own a poodle, you will not have the problem of having balls of dog hair on your couch and over your house. This is because the curly coat of the poodle traps the hair and other things that the poodle sheds. Therefore, people that are allergic to dogs tend to tolerate poodles better.
Collies shed. They are not recommended for people with dog allergies.
Which is Easier to Groom, the Poodle or the Collie?
Poodles require a lot of grooming and they are not very easy to groom.
To learn more about how to properly groom a poodle, check out our article on how to groom a poodle.
Learn more on how to take care of a poodle here.
Collies require a lot of grooming and they are not very easy to groom.
Which Dog Breed is more Dog-Friendly, the Poodle or the Collie?
Poodles get along very well with other dogs.
Poodles get along very well with other dogs. Poodles are very friendly. However, it is up to the other dog to reciprocate the friendliness. Some dog breeds are just unfriendly and aggressive.
Read this article to learn about the dog breeds that get along well with poodle and the dog breeds that do not along with poodles.
Collies get along very well with other dogs.
Are Poodles good family dogs? What about Collies?
Poodles are great family dogs. They are very affectionate with family.
Poodles make a good addition to a family. They love kids and kids love them.
Collies are great family dogs. They are very affectionate with family.
Is the Poodle Easier to Train than the Collie?
Poodles are very easy to train.
Poodles are easy to train because they are intelligent and eager to please their owners. However, it is important that you begin training a poodle to make the most out of their natural intelligence. Moreover, training your Poodle should be based on positive reinforcement and repetition. Be sure to give your Poodle praise when he obeys a command and ignores your poodle`s bad behavior.
To learn more, check out our article on how to train a poodle.
Collies are very easy to train.
Which one drools more, the Poodle or the Collie
Poodles do have a very low tendency to drool.
Collies do have a very low tendency to drool.
How Kid-friendly are Poodles and Collies?
Poodles get along well with kids. They are kid-friendly.
Collies get along well with kids. They are kid-friendly.
Does the Poodle Have a Higher Prey Drive than the Collie?
Poodles have a very low prey drive. This means they get won`t chase after smaller pets. They tend to get along well with other pets.
Collies have a high prey drive. They have the tendency to chase after smaller animals and pets. They do not get along well with other pets.
Do Poodles Bark and Howl? What about Collies?
Poodles are not very vocal. They do not tend to bark and howl.
Collies are highly vocal. They have the tendency to bark and howl.
Can Poodles Tolerate Cold Weather? And can Collies Tolerate Cold Weather?
Poodles can moderately tolerate cold weather.
Collies can very well tolerate cold weather.
Wanderlust Potential: Poodle vs. Collie
Poodles have a moderate tendency to wander. This means that they sometimes get distracted by other animals or objects.
Collies do not have the potential to wander after things that capture their attention. They tend to stay around where you leave them.
Can Poodles Tolerate Hot Weather? Can Collies Tolerate Hot Weather?
Poodles can tolerate hot weather.
Collies can tolerate hot weather as long as the weather is not too hot.
Is the Poodle Better for Apartment Owners than the Collie?
Poodles adapt very well to apartment living.
Collies adapt moderately well to apartment living.
Which is Better for New Dog Owners, the Poodle or the Collie?
Poodles are very good for new dog owners.
Collies are very good for new dog owners.
Poodle Versus Other Dog Breeds
You may also be interested in how the poodle compares to other breeds aside from the Collie. So, see below the links to the comparison of the poodle to other breeds:
poodle versus Bernedoodle poodle versus Staffordshire Bull Terrier poodle versus Kerry Blue Terrier poodle versus Siberian Husky poodle versus Pomeranian poodle versus German Longhaired Pointer poodle versus American Water Spaniel poodle versus Peek A Poo poodle versus Pyredoodle poodle versus Akita Chow
Conclusion: Poodle versus Collie. Which One is a Better Pet?
In summary, there is nothing like a better dog breed or a worse dog breed. The important question to ask is which dog breed better matches your interests and lifestyle. We hope our discussion above will help you in deciding which dog breed between the Poodle and the Collie better suits you and your family.